: this is from tom shipman who says the u.s. spends $506 billion in education, $718 billion on defense, that should be reversed. let's go to steve, shreveport, louisiana, good morning. caller: good morning steve and good morning, mr. van roekel. mr. van roekel, i got my education, my high school diploma from overseas and honestly, i don't know if you all want to play games with this education over here, i don't know what it is. my daughter went to school over here, she was born over here and she went to a school and she became a lawyer. my daughter does not know how to multiply. i am so frustrated with education in this country. when i went to school back home, i was in third grade education, elementary school, i had to learn how to multiply from 1-100, and if i didn't learn it, i had to stay in the school until i learned it. the teacher -- the idea of the family, they can control the school and make a fuss about it, this and that, this is not going to work. host: your response. guest: one of the things that i think will help us in this country do what you described, that we all define